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I love my new Greenworks 60V mower, but some weeks I need a second charge on my battery to finish the yard. Since the Greenworks 60V line is a Lowes exclusive, the batteries are quite expensive. This led me to ask, “Can I use a Snapper battery in my Greenworks mower?” Similarly, I discovered that many people online were wondering, “Are Greenworks and Kobalt batteries interchangeable?”
The official answer is that the various brands of batteries are not compatible. When you look closely, though, you can see that batteries from Snapper, Greenworks, Kobalt, Powerworks, and Victa are all very similar. This post has information on the batteries, and my next post tells you how to use Greenworks batteries in Kobalt Tools.
Note: This post is provided for informational purposes only. If you decide to make any modifications to a battery, do so at your own risk. The author takes no responsibility for your personal choices. Warranties may be voided by modifying original equipment, and personal injury may occur through the use of power tools. Electrical equipment is dangerous. Fire or equipment failure can occur if attempting to use parts not certified by the manufacturer or if batteries are damaged. You have been warned.
What Are the Brands of Yard Tool Batteries?
Major brands of battery-powered yard tools include:
- Greenworks: 24V, 40V, 60V (Lowes only), 80V, 82V
- Kobalt: 40V, 80V (All Lowes only)
- Snapper: 60V (Walmart only, discontinued?), 82V
- Ryobi: 18V, 40V (All Home Depot only)
- EGO: 56V
- Black and Decker: 40V, 60V
- Worx: 24V, 40V
- Powerworks: 40V, 60V, 82V
- Victa: 80V
- Too many more to list
Are Greenworks and Kobalt the Same?
Greenworks and Kobalt are both sold at Lowes. Kobalt tools brand is owned by Lowe’s but contains tools made by many different companies. Globe Tools (aka Changzhou Globe Tools or Globe Tools Group) is a Chinese company that manufacturers tools sold by many companies, like Stanley, DeWalt, Black & Decker, Snapper, and Kobalt. Globe Tools also owns multiple tool companies, including Greenworks and Powerworks. Greenworks 80V and Kobalt 80V yard tools are made by Global Tools using the same design, with slight branding changes.
What Is the Difference Between 60V and 80V Batteries and Tools?
60 and 80 volts listed on these tools and batteries is the maximum output that each is capable of producing. 82V lines are within the 80 volt family of tools.
Higher Voltage Tools Generally:
- Have more power.
- Charge faster.
- Are larger.
- Are heavier.
Electric motors designed for higher voltage are generally more powerful. This peak voltage also affects the charging time of the batteries, and higher voltage systems usually charge faster.
The downside is higher voltage motors are also larger. Bigger motors add weight to the equipment. Compared to 40V yard tools, 60V equipment can be a good compromise between power and weight found in 80V equipment. Each family of equipment has a motor designed for a specific voltage, so batteries are not compatible between different voltage systems.
What Does the Ah Rating of a Battery Mean?
Batteries also have an ampere-hour rating (Ah). The Ah number represents the capacity of the battery. This is like fuel in the tank. Each voltage system offers multiple battery versions with different capacity. Higher Ah batteries will last longer but will also be heavier.
In summary, higher Ah batteries:
- Last longer.
- Are heavier.
What’s Inside a Lawn Tool Battery?
Most lithium-ion battery packs use the same parts. Inside of each are rechargeable cells that look similar to a AA battery. Lithium-ion 18650 cells are used in battery packs for laptops, electric skateboards, remote controlled cars, power tools, and even electric cars!
Voltage and Ah from each cell is limited, but multiple cells combined reach higher voltages and capacities. Cells in a series combine voltage while cells in parallel combine capacity. Most battery packs have a mix of both combinations.
More cells needed to make more voltage or higher capacity also add weight. Weight matters because a heavier tool is more work to use. A powerful tool is not as useful if it is uncomfortable or uncontrollable.
What Sizes of Greenworks Batteries Are Available?
See the table below to compare differences in the Greenworks batteries.
Voltage | Model | Ah | Size (in) | Weights (lbs) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
60V | LB60A00 | 2 | 6.2 x 4.6 x 3.4 | 2.73 |
60V | LB60A03 | 2.5 | 6.2 x 4.6 x 3.4 | 2.78 |
60V | LB60A01 | 4 | 6.2 x 4.6 x 3.4 | 4.23 |
60V | LB60A02 | 5 | 6.2 x 4.6 x 3.4 | 4.28 |
80V | GBA80200 (2901302) | 2 | 6.2 x 4.6 x 3.4 | 2.8 |
80V | GBA80400 (2902402) | 4 | 8.2 x 4.6 x 3.4 | 5.5 |
80V | GBA80500 (2902502) | 5 | 8.2 x 4.6 x 3.4 | 5.7 |
Can I Convert a 60V Battery to an 80V Battery?
I cannot recommend making any modification to a battery that changes the electrical properties. It is technically possible to modify a battery to change voltage or add capacity, but it is difficult to know how that may affect the total system. There are likely differences in the electronics used between voltage equipment families. At best, the result wouldn’t work. At worst, equipment would be damaged or catch on fire!
Can I Add Capacity (Ah) to a Battery?
I would not recommend attempting to add capacity to a 60V or 80V battery. Adding capacity to a smaller battery is less complex than changing voltage but not advised. Manufacturing differences between different capacity batteries are likely, requiring additional electronics. It requires extensive electronics knowledge to safely handle any differences.
Can I Use One Brand of Battery In Another Brand of Tool?
No. At least not without modifications. Thankfully, though, some batteries are fairly easy to modify to fit other brands, if you’re fairly handy. I’ll show you how to use Greenworks batteries in Kobalt Tools and how to make other batteries or brands compatible in my next post.
Which Brands of Batteries Are Compatible?
As I stated above, none of the brands are compatible with each other out of the box. With modifications, many of the brands can potentially be compatible.
Not all lithium-ion battery packs use the same connectors. Ones that have the same connectors, or pinout, also have to physically similar to fit. Fortunately, contract manufacturing in China leads to some overlap. They’re really all the same battery in very slightly different cases. Models made by Global Tools using their design should all be compatible. Unfortunately, Global Tools does not provide a list of models using this design.
These 60V batteries all appear to be compatible with case modifications:
- Greenworks
- Snapper
- Powerworks
These 80V and 82V batteries all appear to be compatible with case modifications:
- Greenworks
- Kobalt
- Snapper
- Victa
- Powerworks
Take a look at these two batteries to see how similar they are:
Other than the slots on the side of the battery case, coloring, and label they appear identical.
This 80V is longer than the others by 2 inches:
80V 4Ah and 80V 5Ah batteries us a longer case to fit additional cells for higher capacity. They are compatible with shorter batteries, but some tools do not have space to close the battery door when using a longer battery. Look at the Greenworks battery chart above to see full dimensions. Information on Greenworks batteries should remain consistent across other branded models with the same capacity.
You can find some good battery deals if you keep an eye out. I picked up a 60V 4Ah Snapper battery on a recent sale for 1/4 the cost of the Greenworks version!
Why Won’t a Snapper Battery Work in a Greenworks Mower?
From the physical dimensions to the electrical connection, differences between the batteries are small. One detail makes them proprietary to a single brand. In the pictures above, you may have noticed the grooves cut out on the sides are slightly different between brands. I took a picture of the original Greenworks battery on the left compared to the Snapper battery on the right showing the different slots.
Global Tools is using the same overall design on many different models. As a consumer, it is frustrating that batteries from the same company are not interchangeable, but a contract limitation is likely to blame. Because the batteries are sold under different brands, Lowe’s doesn’t want to explain how their 80V Kobalt mower is different from Briggs and Stratton’s Snapper branded 82V mower. That would be much more difficult if the batteries all worked together!
Manufacturing is cheaper and easier when small details are changed. Changing the slots to only fit a specific brand allows every company to have a “unique” product. This can be an even bigger problem if a brand discontinues a product line to work with another manufacturer or make their own design. Victa discontinued their 80V equipment, and it appears the 60V Snapper line exclusive to Walmart may be eliminated. Owners have no way to get new batteries without an alternative.
Are Greenworks and Kobalt Batteries Interchangeable?
The original question of this post is “Are Greenworks and Kobalt Batteries Interchangeable?” The answer is no straight out of the box. The grooves on the battery case prevent the battery from fitting in the opposite brand.
If you’re up for a bit of handiwork, the answer is yes. Greenworks and Kobalt batteries are compatible, but you have to alter the case or the tool to make them fit. This also should work for any combination of 60V batteries from Greenworks, Snapper, and Powerworks as well as any combination of 80V or 82V batteries from Greenworks, Kobalt, Powerworks, Snapper, Victa, and Powerworks. Please see my next post that will include a tutorial about how to use Greenworks batteries in Kobalt Tools.
Have you used a different brand of battery in your yard tool? Please leave your questions and comments below!
Scot Sabo says
I have snapper 60 v tools and batteries and the snapper battery fits into a powerworks tool however the powerworks tool will not power up with the snapper battery. I took measurements and compared them between the snapper and powerworks and all appear to be the same except the powerworks tool has plastic tabs that insert into the slots between the terminals in the battery pack I am wondering if these tabs are switching the battery off when inserted. The powerworks tool is a pole hedge trimmer and if I disconnect the pole where it screws together the power terminals are exposed so I put a multi-meter on the terminals with the battery installed and pulled the trigger and there was zero volts across the terminals. I m just now thinking I should try jumping the battery terminals to the tool’s terminals with jumper wires (thereby bypassing the plastic tabs) to determine if it is the tabs that are preventing it from working or if it is just the tool is defective. Have you had any experience with this combination or heard of any.
Brad says
I can’t say that I have experience with this exactly. If you use my contact form to send me an email, I would love to see some pictures. I suspect, based on your description, that it may be a situation like with the battery charger. If you haven’t noticed, there is a switch along the back edge of the charger, which is actually what starts charging the battery. If the case is off of the battery, the button will not trigger, so the battery will not charge, unless the button is held with a rubber band or something else. I imagine the tabs in the battery may be depressing a switch inside of the tool, so in this case you could either create a removable shim for the Snapper batteries to trigger the switch, put a piece in to permanently depress the switch (have to work around the battery tabs), or open the trimmer case to jumper the switch.
Steve says
Scot, the Snapper battery fits into the Powerworks without any modifications? I purchased a 60V Snapper mower last year. At the time I thought I would need more than one battery to mow the lawn. The 4ah batteries were on sale for $60 a piece so I purchased two giving me a total of three. I anticipated buying other 60V Snapper tools but recently found out the 60V line has been discontinued. Furthermore, I’m able to mow the lawn with one battery so I’m trying to figure out a way to leverage the three batteries. If I can use them in other brands, that would be awesome. I’m going to look into Powerworks.
Brad says
I am told that 60V Snapper batteries will fit Powerworks tools without modification, because of the way the slots align in that combination. I have not verified this myself. Worst case would be minor modification to the case of the battery or the tool itself, so it is a pretty safe bet.
Steve says
Thanks Brad!
Jk says
So, will Power Works. 60v work with any Snapper 60 v power tool?
Brad Scott says
Yes, this appears to be the case.
Scot says
Yes, It fit without modification but I never got it to work. After a lot of testing decided that there was likely something wrong with the trigger on the power works tool so I returned it so I currently do not have any Powerworks tools, but would like to try one again. Let us know if you end up trying one and let us know whether or not it works.
Roy says
Hi,
I successfully used a 60 volt snapper battery in a Powerworks tiller, worked perfectly with zero modifications. I think Scot’s tool may have been broken. Here is the tiller I used the snapper battery in.
https://amzn.to/2LESzhd
Brad says
Thanks for the confirmation, Roy!
Phu Dinh says
Hello Brad,
I have the 60V snapper mower. Can the powerworks battery be used in the Snapper 60V?
Brad says
Yes, however, if I remember correctly the Powerworks battery case may take a small adjustment to the notches to fit. The Snapper battery happens to fit in the Powerworks tools without modification, and Roy has confirmed. I think the reverse may take a small adjustment.
Roy, might you be able to post picture or two?
Jeremy says
Thanks for your help! I am about to purchase a 60V Snapper tool line where the seller is selling a mower, a blower and trimmer for a really inexpensive price. They have moved to the EGO brand. They wanted a better ste I guess. The cost of the set will be well below the cost of just the mower itself. I’ll get a 4.0, and two 2.0 ah batteries (60V snapper). They are 2018 and 2017 models. They look identical to the Pro 60V Greenworks, the Craftsman, etc.
My main question is whether the Greenworks 60V batteries will fit into, or can be modified to fit into, the Snapper tools doing the tab removal thing? I won’t likely consider purchasing the Snapper set (or will ask for further reduction) if there is no future replacement of the battery. Because I would be buying it second-hand, the warranty is lost of course. Snapper’s customer service for the 60V series now directs you to call Greenworks. I called Greenworks customer service yesterday (by the call center was just North of Toronto). The lady there said Greenworks and its contract manufacturer were the maker of that system but they will not longer be making replacement batteries and chargers or parts for the Snapper 60V line! So unless the Greenworks batteries work with the Snapper tools, this guy is selling something that is already 1-2 years old and will not be supported. Seems like I have some negotiation to do. Back to the core question, can Greenworks 60V Pro batteries fit into the Snapper 60V tools?
Brad says
Because Global Tool manufacturers both, they are compatible. There is confirmation that Snapper batteries fit in Powerworks (also a Global Tool brand) tools without modification, however, I’m not 100% that the reverse is true. From the pictures I have been able to get, it appears the Snapper and Powerworks batteries are identical, possibly as a concession when the Snapper licensed 60V line was discontinued. You can order the Powerworks battery on Amazon, and there are pictures on the listing here: https://amzn.to/2Sok688
In any case, I can confidently say that the Greemworks battery will work in the Snapper tools, with minor modification. In my other post (https://smarttechdad.com/use-greenworks-batteries-kobalt-tools/), I have a picture comparing Greenworks and Snapper batteries side by side with the slots matched up. Snapper is on the right and Greenworks on the left. The good news is that to use the Greenworks battery in a Snapper tool, the cutout that Greenworks already has would just need expanded upward very slightly. In my opinion, that’s a 5 min modification. Because the Greenworks tools are available readily, that is another good option.
If I were you, I would go ahead and jump on the deal you’ve found!
Matt says
Hey Brad,
So in your opinion, can a snapper 60v fit in a green works (mower) with modification?
Brad says
Yes, absolutely! I use a Snapper 60V 4Ah battery with all of my Greenworks tools without issue. That is the modification I demonstrate in the post here: https://smarttechdad.com/use-greenworks-batteries-kobalt-tools/
Brian says
I plan on buying PowerWorks 60v pole hedge trimmer. Since the battery compartment will be frequently moved around and facing downwards while using the tool, is it ok with modify the tool for Greenworks 60v to fit in the compartment?
Thanks
Brad Scott says
Yes, it is okay. Modifying the tool vs the battery will make no major difference, even with regularly moving the tool. The reason is that the rails and slots are not engaged in securing the battery within the device. On all of the tools that I have used or seen, including the pole trimmer, have a latch at the back holding the battery in. The latch stands out on PowerWorks tools nicely against the black plastic, because it is red, so it’s very visible in pictures. The latch is not affected by any modifications to fit batteries across brands.
Q says
HI Brad – the Kobalt 80V battery appears to be the same form factor at the 60V battery. If that’s the case, what are the odds of the 60V battery working in an 80V leaf blower? Obviously I’ll lose some power, but do you think it would work?
Brad Scott says
The form factor is approximately the same, however the voltage difference is too great to work. Within + or – about 5V, it would be okay, but in this case it’s too much for the way the motor is designed. Lithium power systems also apply battery protection that further limits this, to ensure you aren’t damaging your battery by running it down too much or using a battery that is damaged in a hazardous (explosive) way.
It *might* be possible to rewire an 80V pack to transfer the additional cells applied to voltage instead to storage or vice versa, but I think the electronics would likely require change out for the voltage system protections in a different range. This would be a fairly big and hazardous job that I can’t recommend.
Giovanni D'Amico says
Hi Brad. You know if battery pack Greenworks 80V is compatible for 82V ?
Thank You.
Brad Scott says
Yes, the 80V and 82V packs are compatible. The actual output is identical, and the designation is a marketing tactic.
James F. Ensign says
I have been using my 80V Kobalt since Spring. It’s phenomenal! I have been mowing with electric lawn mowers exclusively since 1957 (whenever I lived in single-family homes…). My father won a Sunbeam two-blade model just after buying his first house in ’57.. The lot was 40×140.; I was 10. We both cut the cord several times those first several years; the cords had lots of black electrical tape wound around them!
In 1970, I was married and bought my first home in Westlake, Ohio. Since I worked for the local electric utility (in the Residential Sales Dept.!) I had “connections” and bought a Black & Decker single-blade electric mower. THIS lot was 70×260, though. I used it until I moved on to townhouses and condos due to being transferred to Chicago seventeen years later. Then, In 2014 my wife and I retired to a 2-acre home in Norwalk, Ohio, to be closer to kids and grandkids. I used a lawn service until this spring. I’m saving $50 PER WEEK with the fabulous Kobalt! And NO CORD!!
Corey says
WITH THE GREEN WORKS BRAND IF THE BATTERIES ARE ALL 60VLT CAN U INTERCHANGE THE 5ah,2ah and 4AH BATTERIES BETWEEN THE MOWER, WEED EATER AND BLOWER?
Brad Scott says
Yes, within the same brand and voltage battery you can use a battery with any Ah rating. This just tells you how much energy is stored in the battery at that voltage output, so this really ends up a relative measure of run time. A 2Ah battery should give you about half the run time of a 4Ah battery in a given tool. For the mower, this is a bigger consideration than a weed eater or leaf blower, because the mower has a bigger motor that needs more power. More Ah also means more weight. Handheld tools can be a little easier to use with a lower rated battery.
Steve Moore says
I wanted to buy an 80 volt Kobalt pole chainsaw since I have other 80 volt tools, but hearing that Lowe’s has discontinued the pole saw, I am looking at a Greenworks. Can my kobalt battery be used in the Greenworks saw?
Brad Scott says
The Kobalt 80V batteries cannot be used in a Greenworks 80V tool without modification, but if you are handy, it’s not difficult to make it work. I have detailed the general procedure in another post: https://www.smartfamilymoney.com/use-greenworks-batteries-kobalt-tools/ It appears that on the Kobalt 80V battery the lower rail on either side is a bit lower than on the Greenworks 80V, so the current rail would need expanded upward a bit to fit in the Greenworks tools. Kobalt 80V batteries also have a notch at the bottom the Greenworks do not, but that would only be a consideration if you want all of the batteries and tools to be interchangeable.
Nathan DeCaro says
Hello,
Will Greenworks 82V work on kobalt 80v tools? Thanks
Brad Scott says
Yes, these should both be fine, as they both utilize a 72V nominal voltage. Since the 82V Greenworks batteries are only sold under the “Commercial” branding, they often carry a premium over the 80V “Pro” models.
Michael says
I have the Greenworks 80 volt batteries and purchased a self-propelled 82 volt snapper utility cart.I know that the railing system is not the same so I RotoZip one of the rails down and the battery goes in. Unfortunately I think it’s not making contact so I hardwired it up and power goes on. Unfortunately all the lights light up and then after a few seconds the power indicator lights go off.
Since the power goes on I know I did it right why is the power shutting down and the battery is fully charged I also tried it with a Greenworks Chinese knockoff same thing.
Brad Scott says
I can’t say for sure why this is happening, because I don’t have identical batteries and tools to test that it works. The voltages put out by the 80V Greenworks, 82V Greenworks, and 82V Snapper lines have all been confirmed to be the same. What you are describing sounds a lot like the symptoms of a defective device that I’ve heard from other people. I always like to test battery packs outside of the case before making physical modifications to verify everything is in working order for this reason.
Farjad says
any info on sunjoe / snowjoe 40v ion+ batteries?
Brad Scott says
I don’t have much info on them, because they’re a different style pack than the Greenworks/Crafstman/Victa/Poulan/McCulloch/Sterwins packs. I also do not have one of the Sunjoe/Snowjoe devices to take apart. What I do know is that the charger only has 4 terminals, but the batteries themselves have 5. I can’t tell for certain if the tools use all of the terminals to determine if it might be possible to enable them to use one of the other 40V battery packs. They do all use the 18650 rechargeable cells, which could allow you to harvest cells from one pack to repair another, and I have seen that the Sunjoe/Snowjoe batteries have a fuse that can sometimes fail, which can be replaced to get the pack working again. I have also seen mention of some quality control problems with the Sunjoe/Snowjoe packs where not all the cells are actually connected. Unfortunately, repairing them in this case requires fairly advanced skills. I hope this helps!
Paul says
Hi Brad,
Do you know if I can use a 60V Greenworks battery in an 80V Greenworks weed wacker ?
Thanks
Brad Scott says
No, the nominal voltage difference between the 60V and 80V systems is too great to use a 60V pack with an 80V tool. Theoretically, it may be possible to switch some battery cells from capacity (Ah) to power (V) to achieve this, like Dewalt does with their Flexvolt batteries, but it would be a complicated conversion. It would also reduce to available capacity and runtime in the process.
Paul B Turner says
Thanks Brad, I appreciate your help
Simon W. says
Hi Brad, do you know if it’ll take a lot of modification for a 60v greenworks mower to use a 60v powerworks battery? i ran across powerworks batteries at a lot cheaper price than what i can get greenworks batteries for. But I don’t want to take apart the battery casings just to make it work. i am hoping for the capability to just grind some tabs. thank you!
Brad Scott says
The 60V Powerworks batteries have the same slot positions that the 60V Snapper batteries (now discontinued) had. Since I have the process I used to modify a Snapper 60V battery in another post, you could follow that.
https://www.smartfamilymoney.com/use-greenworks-batteries-kobalt-tools/
If you got the depth exact, it would be possible to do without taking the case off the battery, but taking it apart would decrease the risk of cutting into a cell with power tools, if something went wrong. I think it took less than a half hour from start to finish, excluding the time I took for pictures.
Because the slots on the bottom are all that is different, it also works to grind the bottom section flush to the depth of the existing slots, starting where the top of the Greenworks notch is located. The plastic gets thinner above that point, or the entire bottom section could be smoothed.
Unfortunately, this isn’t as easy as popping off some tabs, but if you’ve got some power tools, it’s not too much harder.